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Whose Phone Number is Whose?
6th March 2014
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Hi,
If I have two adults in a household, but only one has a mobile number then it is not clear from the shortcode listing or PDF directory whose phone number it is. Can I suggest that you find some way of laying out the phone number and email address so that it is clear who it belongs to? Or put an initial next to the email/phone number to make clear which person it belongs to?
Is this something that can be done with styles and/or templates?
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6th March 2014
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Not yet, I'll add it to the todo list!

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18th March 2014
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Hi Andy,

Just want to add my voice to support this request! Example : we now have four adults in our household but only two of them have mobile phones registered in the database. It is impossible to know which phone number belongs to who! See attached screen-shot.

Formatting is always a difficult subject because if you ask 100 people you will get 100 different requirements. As a temporary measure, could you point me to the right .php and possibly .css file so I can have a go myself?

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John

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18th March 2014
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I have added first name to mobiles and also changed the format so address detail takes up the left hand third, email and phone the next third and google map if used the last third.
It's responsive so they come under each other when screen width is too small.

That section is not written with a template - too make design tweaks possble without delving into code - perhaps I will get round to it one day!

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18th March 2014
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Hi Andy,
Appreciate very much you looking at this so quickly! 🙂

🙁 Unfortunately the fix is incompatible with something on our site - possible the theme? We are running Thesis 1.6.
- The search box and page boxes on the directory page are now disabled, as is the PDF link
- The addresses still display, and I can see the names with the mobile numbers now, but:
- The first record seems to display OK, but the font on the second record is smaller and then the listing jumps out of the centre pane completely and pushes the components which were in the sidebars down into the background.
- I've attached an image with scribbled out names which may help explain it better.

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John

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19th March 2014
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That looked horrible but I think is an easy fix - it needed a } moving in the code. I was closing a div that was only used if you use Google maps on the address list.

Just uploading it now!

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19th March 2014
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Hi Andy,
Thought it might be something like that. It's happened to me 🙁
Let me say first of all how impressed I am with your fast response on this. It is so much better now.
I do still have a couple of minor issues but will document those after breakfast!!
Many thanks
John

19th March 2014
9:32 am
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Hi Andy,

Further to my previous post... See attached screenshot:

There is a space needed between the name and the email addresses on the directory screen - as you have done with the mobile numbers.
I would also like to see any names which do not have mobile numbers registered to be suppressed, and the same with email addresses. It just clutters up the screen really. Same applies to PDF display.

Long email addresses were overflowing into the right hand third when maps were switched on.
I fixed that by adding a <small> tag to reduce all the text size in the listing as follows:
<small>

</small>
Our centre pane is only 600 pixels wide.

There is one other problem which I will document separately as it is a data rather than a formatting issue.

Many thanks for your help so far. 😀

Kind Regards

John

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19th March 2014
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V0.5934...

I've fixed multiple surnames in a household.
We would tend to make students separate households, who happen to live in the same house!
"Household" = family unit to allow for one person families.

I've added space between name and email/mobile

Sizing issue - the address list fits 90% of it's given width. I've deliberately not specified font sizes so they are inherited from the parent container. Your small tag would sort that out.

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19th March 2014
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Hi Andy,
I thought I'd penned a reply to this but can't see it now 🙁
Anyway, this plugin looks usable for us now and no doubt we will be in touch again as we get used to it.
Meanwhile there is a £25 donation on its way to you.
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John

19th March 2014
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That's kind thank you

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19th March 2014
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Hi Andy, thanks for all your work on this. I'm on v0.5934.

There are still a few issues:
- on web page, no space between [firstname] and [email]
- on web page & PDF, in single-person households, the [firstname] is not suppressed before the [mobile]
- on PDF, in multi-person households, [firstname] is not given before [email]
- on v-card, the order of people is sometimes reversed (John & Sarah online becomes Sarah & John in the vcard)
- on v-card, there is an extra space before the surname in the FN field
- on v-card, there is no indication for multiple email addresses or mobile numbers as to what belongs to whom (could this be added to the note field?)
- the search box still returns results outside of the shortcode-specified member_type_id

Many thanks again for all you're doing to improve this area of the product.
John

22nd March 2014
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I am getting the space between name and phone but not between name and email.
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24th March 2014
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V0.5935!

Has fixed spacing between name and email
No names on single email, single mobile households
PDF redesigned slightly to improve large families, names before email
Search box only works for member_type_ids specified in shortcode

Vcards - the standard is a pain! And not supported equally by email programmes etc.
I think I need a separate vcard for each mobile/email for it to work correctly and so need to experiment whether multiple vcards in one vcard file will work (it should, but doesnt seem to universally!)

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24th March 2014
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Thanks so much Andy. You're so quick to respond to user issues!

I'm afraid I'm coming back to you with a couple more issues:
- webpage & PDF: in multi-person, single-mobile-number households (ie only one person has a mobile number), the name should been still be shown
- webpage: the telephone hyperlinks are great and could be done for landline numbers too
- PDF: in the heading there needs to be a space between [churchname]Address list [date]
- PDF: households with a single-mobile-number are hyperlinked, but others aren't (ie landlines, and multi-mobile households)

Hope all this detailed feedback is helpful. I'm getting excited about getting our church using this software, although not much looking forward to entering it all as we've not got it in a helpful format currently!

24th March 2014
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Those should be sorted now (0.5936). Anything else will have to wait until next Monday!

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24th March 2014
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Initial impressions of 0.5937 are that it looks great - thanks!

31st March 2014
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Had a chance to look at this now Andy - thank you. I can't quite work out if the behaviour I'm seeing is intentional or not: a two-member household where the two members are of different member_type_ids. If a shortcode is used that includes one of them, then they are both listed even though one of them doesn't have a matching member_type_id. Does that make sense?

31st March 2014
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Yes it does make sense and it is deliberate...
We often have a wife that comes regularly and husband that is irregular. On the address list they both appear because they are in the same household (even if I'm using just the regular member_type_id) - which causes less offence, because the address list is viewable by anyone with a password!

We use the diff member types of husband/wife for targeted email/sms comms!

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I see, thanks! That makes perfect sense.

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